The following article is in response to an article titled – Submission, Service and Inquiry Require a Live Person – by Vraja Vilasa Dasa which appeared in The Sampradaya Sun.
These ANTI-RITVIK folks are just sooooo ENVIOUS of Srila Prabhupada’s unique position of CURRENT DIKSHA GURU FOR ISKCON.
ALL he is trying to do is JUSTIFY some PHYSICAL body to be present in order that Bhagavad- gita 4.34 to be correct according to HIS MANIPULATION. He writes: If there is not a self- realized soul always present, then what is the point of Krishna speaking the verse Bhagavad- gita 4.34?
So let’s address his MANIPULATION — we will take the verse below AS IT IS:
TEXT 34
tad viddhi pranipatena pariprasnena sevaya upadeksyanti te jnanam jnaninas tattva-darsinah
SYNONYMS
tat—that knowledge of different sacrifices; viddhi—try to understand; pranipatena—by approaching a spiritual master; pariprasnena—by submissive inquiries; sevaya—by the rendering of service; upadeksyanti—initiate; te—unto you; jnanam—knowledge; jnaninah—the self-realized; tattva—truth; darsinah—the seers.
TRANSLATION
Just try to learn the truth by approaching a spiritual master. Inquire from him submissively and render service unto him. The self-realized soul can impart knowledge unto you because he has seen the truth.
Does it state the approach of the spiritual master MUST be PHYSICAL BODY? NO!
Now, since Srila Prabhupada’s physical presence is apparently not there, does it mean that he is no longer approachable? NO! – Books: Sri Chaitanya-charitamrita1975 Edition: The Spiritual Masters: Adi 1.35
PURPORT: There is no difference between the spiritual master’s instructions and the spiritual master himself. In his absence, therefore, his words of direction should be the pride of the disciple.
Srila Prabhupada and HIS books – there is NO DIFFERENCE. So ALL one has to do to seek
ANSWERS is to READ his books: Srila Prabhupada: “Well, the questions… Answers are there in my books.” – Morning Walk at Cheviot Hills Golf Course—May 13, 1973, Los Angeles
Paramahamsa: Srila Prabhupada, when you are not present with us, how is it possible to receive instructions, for example, on questions that may arise?
Prabhupada: Well, the questions… Answers are there in my books.
Paramahamsa: Other than that, for example, that we would ask you in… Prabhupada: Yes.
Paramahamsa: Do you direct us also through the heart? Besides the Paramatma?
Prabhupada: If your heart is pure. Everything depends on purity.
Note: Srila Prabhupada: “In my books the philosophy of Krishna Consciousness is explained fully, so if there is anything which you do not understand, then you simply have to read again and again. By reading daily the knowledge will be revealed to you and by this process your spiritual life will develop.” – Letter to: Bahurupa, November 22, 1974, Bombay I am pleased to hear that you are chanting 16 rounds daily and reading my books regularly and following the four rules. In my books the philosophy of Krishna Consciousness is explained fully so if there is anything which you do not understand, then you simply have to read again and again. By reading daily the knowledge will be revealed to you and by this process your spiritual life will develop.
Note: “answered automatically” – Letter to: Upendra, February 19, 1972, Calcutta (8) Although there is no GBC man for Far East for addressing your questions, still, as I am now old man and inclined for philosophy and translating, I am asking my disciples to kindly give me some relief from so much administrative work and asking questions. I have appointed this GBC for that purpose, and you are also senior member, and I have given you already everything, so you please consult among yourselves if you have questions. It is said sevon mukha hi jihbado, sayam eva sphurat adah, or “By engaging one’s tongue in chanting and taking prasada, simultaneously following the regulative principles, the Lord reveals Himself upon this.” In other words, if you are sincere to serve continuously and always chanting, all such questions become answered automatically. I never asked my Spiritual Master one question except one: “How shall I serve you?”
Note: “then all of your questions will be answered automatically, because Krishna promises to
His sincere devotee that He will give him the intelligence to understand Him.” – Letter to: Dasarha, March 4, 1972, Bombay Regarding your other question, you should not read such nonsense books, nor allow your mind to dwell on such subject matter. Instead utilize your time for advancing in Krishna consciousness by reading our books. We have got sufficient stock, and if you simply go on reading them, chanting regularly 16 rounds, engaging yourself 24 hours in Krishna’s business, then all of your questions will be answered automatically, because Krishna promises to His sincere devotee that He will give him the intelligence to understand Him.
Note: These ANTI-RITVIKS are a bunch of CROOKS who are after CAPTURING some innocent, to be a SLAVE (SO CALLED DISCIPLE) FOR EXPLOITATION BY THE BOGUS ISKCON RUBBER-STAMPED “DIKSHA GURUS” MANUFACTURED BY BOGUS GBC. SO LONG AS THEIR PAYROLL FROM THE BOGUS GBC IS PROTECTED, THEY CANVAS FOR THE CROOKS TO LURE THE INNOCENT DEVOTEE TO BE USED BY THE BOGUS GURUS.
Another point: The heading of article by ANTI RITVIK manipulator VRAJA VILASA DASA is: Submission, Service and Inquiry Require a Live Person Now, let’s consider all his points: 1) Submission: We Prabhupadanugas submit by accepting the four Regulative Principles namely – no meat, fish, eggs, no intoxications including tea and coffee, no illicit sex, no gambling — and chanting 16 rounds daily of Hare Krishna Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna Hare Hare/ Hare Rama Hare Rama, Rama Rama Hare Hare. 2) Service: “The service of the spiritual master is essential. If there is no chance to serve the spiritual master directly, a devotee should serve him by remembering his instructions.” In his absence, therefore, his words of direction should be the pride of the disciple.
There is NO WHERE it says the spiritual master has to be PHYSICALLY PRESENT TO SERVE HIM. One can serve the spiritual master in his ABSENCE how? If there is no chance to serve the spiritual master directly, a devotee should serve him by remembering his instructions. THIS is WHY “In his absence, therefore, his words of direction should be the pride of the disciple.” To us Prabhupadanugas we can SERVE Srila Prabhupada, our BONAFIDE DIKSHA GURU simply by REMEMBERING HIS INSTRUCTIONS.
Books: Sri Chaitanya-charitamrita — 1975 Edition: The Spiritual Masters: Adi 1.35
PURPORT
The service of the spiritual master is essential. If there is no chance to serve the spiritual master directly, a devotee should serve him by remembering his instructions. There is no difference between the spiritual master’s instructions and the spiritual master himself. In his absence, therefore, his words of direction should be the pride of the disciple. 3) Inquiry: What’s the problem? Devotees go to do VYASA PUJA every YEAR before the Deity of Srila Prabhupada RECITING TO SRILA PRABHUPADA. The same deity is there for us to inquire AND his BOOKS give the ANSWERS. The words nara-matir are appropriate – this means HELLISH MENTALITY the ANTI RITVIK CROOKS CANNOT ACCEPT SRILA PRABHUAPDA DEITY, their mentality IS HELLISH. They make a SHOW BOTTLE recitation of
VYASA PUJA whereas WE PRABHUPADANUGAS WORSHIP THE DEITY.
The reason that this ANTI RITVIK BUNCH OF CROOKS cannot grasp that Srila Prabhupada is LIVING IN SOUND — HIS WORDS is because they consider their GOD is MONEY they SCREW OUT OF THE SYSTEM AND THIS IS WHY THEY WANT THE DEMONIAC ASSES VOTED BY BOGUS GBC WORSHIPED “AS GOOD AS GOD.”
Note: Srila Prabhupada is LIVING IN SOUND: So although a physical body is not present, the vibration should be accepted as the presence of the spiritual master, vibration. What we have heard from the spiritual master, that is living. – Lecture Excerpt, January 13, 1969, Los Angeles So we are not concerned about the physical body. Not concerned means… We are concerned, of course, because the spiritual master, those who are acharyas, their body is not considered as materiel. Arcye sila-dhir gurusu nara-matir. Just like the statue of Krishna, to consider that “This is a stone…” Similarly, arcye sila-dhir gurusu na… Gurusu means those who are acharyas, to accept their body as ordinary man’s body, this is denied in the shastras. So although a physical body is not present, the vibration should be accepted as the presence of the spiritual master, vibration. What we have heard from the spiritual master, that is living.
Thus, we have PROVED it that pranipatena pariprasnena sevaya – Submission, Service and Inquiry require a Live Person is IN FACT present in ACCEPTING SRILA PRABHUPADA AS CURRENT DIKSHA GURU.
The ENVIOUS ANTI- RITVIK manipulator VRAJA VILASA DASA has FAILED TO REPLACE SRILA PRABHUPADA AS CURRENT DIKSHA GURU.
Hare Krishna!
All Glories to OUR BONAFIDE ETERNAL DIKSHA GURU SRILA PRABHUPADA!